These pants where at first a good deal and fit well and where a low price. But now 4 months in they are coming apart on me. I'm kind of sure they will last to the end of the year, but not impressed at all. As well the 2 pockets on each side thing is a bother as the opening is on the side and hard to use. But what I don't like is having to stitch them now and then in such a short time span. Sigh. Oh well. Next time I will get more of the kind I used to get. Sure they are expensive, but they last 4 or 5 years.